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		<title>Comment on Take it from the Topp by A.G. (Alex) Tsakumis</title>
		<link>http://therealstory.ca/2013-05-16/bc-politics/take-it-from-the-topp/comment-page-2#comment-16186</link>
		<dc:creator>A.G. (Alex) Tsakumis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 May 2013 23:33:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ian:

With the greatest of respect, the insanity of the conspiracies being offered here by sime of the usual suspects detracts from the exceptional perspectives you and oyhers have offered. 

It&#039;s sad to see the unfortunate and disappointing election outcome degenrate into which disaffected NDP nutter can come up with the most ridiculous and far fetched scenario. 

The real heart of the NDP have taken this in stride and understand where the mistakes were made. The recriminations are counterpeoductive and mindless. 

Frankly, if you want to have a useful retrospective, kick Jenny Kwan out of your party, as I can assure you, even with the same strategy, Carole would have made Christy look like an amateur and their would have been no idiotic Kinder Morgan reversal,  in aid of satisfying phantom environmental catastrophes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ian:</p>
<p>With the greatest of respect, the insanity of the conspiracies being offered here by sime of the usual suspects detracts from the exceptional perspectives you and oyhers have offered. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s sad to see the unfortunate and disappointing election outcome degenrate into which disaffected NDP nutter can come up with the most ridiculous and far fetched scenario. </p>
<p>The real heart of the NDP have taken this in stride and understand where the mistakes were made. The recriminations are counterpeoductive and mindless. </p>
<p>Frankly, if you want to have a useful retrospective, kick Jenny Kwan out of your party, as I can assure you, even with the same strategy, Carole would have made Christy look like an amateur and their would have been no idiotic Kinder Morgan reversal,  in aid of satisfying phantom environmental catastrophes.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Take it from the Topp by Kevin Logan</title>
		<link>http://therealstory.ca/2013-05-16/bc-politics/take-it-from-the-topp/comment-page-2#comment-16185</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Logan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 May 2013 20:23:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So in conclusion, be prepared for the Kool Topp Guy website to come down and the shingle tossed. Remember they never even registered as a lobby, probably dont even have a business license. The &quot;narrative&quot; will be &quot;Well with the inevitable NDP win we thought it best to let Topp in the door so we could have some access to the new NDP leader. Now with all that washed away, we decided to trade Topp, no more purpose and too much heat, it was fun well it lasted but who knew we would not need a pipeline into Dixs office?&quot;

Then Topp can return to the fold and carry on.........]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So in conclusion, be prepared for the Kool Topp Guy website to come down and the shingle tossed. Remember they never even registered as a lobby, probably dont even have a business license. The &#8220;narrative&#8221; will be &#8220;Well with the inevitable NDP win we thought it best to let Topp in the door so we could have some access to the new NDP leader. Now with all that washed away, we decided to trade Topp, no more purpose and too much heat, it was fun well it lasted but who knew we would not need a pipeline into Dixs office?&#8221;</p>
<p>Then Topp can return to the fold and carry on&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Take it from the Topp by Kevin Logan</title>
		<link>http://therealstory.ca/2013-05-16/bc-politics/take-it-from-the-topp/comment-page-2#comment-16184</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Logan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 May 2013 19:15:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh by the way. Something is not right about how bold and out front they were with all this. Opening the office with the enemy is something you would do after the campaign, and even then its a pretty serious bit of Chutzpah on display.

Topp is a &quot;out of towner.&quot; And will happily trek back to Ottawa, as are many of what Tom Fletcher and the Natives call &quot;Seal Team 6&quot; and no doubt they will slip back into their black operative back rooms.

Its almost as if they are laying bait with stuff like the Topp Kool and Guy stuff don&#039;t ya think? I mean even the name is a way over the Topp! Right? Remember all we saw was a news story and a one page website. That kinda thing these guys can throw together in about 15 minutes.

There is much more to this story, including the ties to Hill and Knowlton who brought you the first Iraq war courtesy of the Embassador&#039;s daughter and  her claims of incubator babies being, well you remember &quot; the narrative.&quot; And that too was allowed and hung right out there for everyone, even W5 ran a story, you know what I mean?

The bottom line is this &quot;loss&quot; was  choreographed perfectly the NDP bolstered the overall narrative with every step, it was a like a beautiful dance.

If Topp is anything, he is consistent. He has ran two campaigns, both had the same effect. We lost and the oilers got their majority. 

His leadership campaign fractured the left in the party and Hill and Knowlton errrr , Lavigne stick handled the DDOS attack on the internet vote into oblivion. 

Next up for Topp was pulling the teeth of the NDP by removing &quot;state owned enterprise&quot; from the constitution, so even if, by some strange bizarre fluke, the NDP found itself a power lever, they would be without capacity to pull it. Could be one day that the oilers have to deliver change given the scandalous and atrocious record of the Harper crowd.

Then it was off to BC to cash in the rest of his political credibility with the NDP and drive Jacks campaign bus into the ditch with Dix in it. Hill and Knowlton cut the break line and Lavigne and Rutkowski where there to ensure the thing went right off the cliff.

Its that kinda handy work that gets ya a job with the &quot;ethical oilers&quot; and your name on the shingle. Me thinks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh by the way. Something is not right about how bold and out front they were with all this. Opening the office with the enemy is something you would do after the campaign, and even then its a pretty serious bit of Chutzpah on display.</p>
<p>Topp is a &#8220;out of towner.&#8221; And will happily trek back to Ottawa, as are many of what Tom Fletcher and the Natives call &#8220;Seal Team 6&#8243; and no doubt they will slip back into their black operative back rooms.</p>
<p>Its almost as if they are laying bait with stuff like the Topp Kool and Guy stuff don&#8217;t ya think? I mean even the name is a way over the Topp! Right? Remember all we saw was a news story and a one page website. That kinda thing these guys can throw together in about 15 minutes.</p>
<p>There is much more to this story, including the ties to Hill and Knowlton who brought you the first Iraq war courtesy of the Embassador&#8217;s daughter and  her claims of incubator babies being, well you remember &#8221; the narrative.&#8221; And that too was allowed and hung right out there for everyone, even W5 ran a story, you know what I mean?</p>
<p>The bottom line is this &#8220;loss&#8221; was  choreographed perfectly the NDP bolstered the overall narrative with every step, it was a like a beautiful dance.</p>
<p>If Topp is anything, he is consistent. He has ran two campaigns, both had the same effect. We lost and the oilers got their majority. </p>
<p>His leadership campaign fractured the left in the party and Hill and Knowlton errrr , Lavigne stick handled the DDOS attack on the internet vote into oblivion. </p>
<p>Next up for Topp was pulling the teeth of the NDP by removing &#8220;state owned enterprise&#8221; from the constitution, so even if, by some strange bizarre fluke, the NDP found itself a power lever, they would be without capacity to pull it. Could be one day that the oilers have to deliver change given the scandalous and atrocious record of the Harper crowd.</p>
<p>Then it was off to BC to cash in the rest of his political credibility with the NDP and drive Jacks campaign bus into the ditch with Dix in it. Hill and Knowlton cut the break line and Lavigne and Rutkowski where there to ensure the thing went right off the cliff.</p>
<p>Its that kinda handy work that gets ya a job with the &#8220;ethical oilers&#8221; and your name on the shingle. Me thinks.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Take it from the Topp by Kevin Logan</title>
		<link>http://therealstory.ca/2013-05-16/bc-politics/take-it-from-the-topp/comment-page-2#comment-16183</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Logan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 May 2013 18:56:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well said Arleigh,

As we see the post mortem messaging and the new mandate missives, as well as all the bit players chiming in making sense of it all. Its enough to make you puke.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said Arleigh,</p>
<p>As we see the post mortem messaging and the new mandate missives, as well as all the bit players chiming in making sense of it all. Its enough to make you puke.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A secret message from the BC Liberals by Mickey Patryluk</title>
		<link>http://therealstory.ca/2010-11-03/bc-liberals/a-secret-message-from-the-bc-liberals/comment-page-1#comment-16182</link>
		<dc:creator>Mickey Patryluk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 May 2013 13:51:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I guess it depends on your definition of comedy. This piece is consistent with the contemporary practice where insult is the foundation of &quot;humour&quot; at the same time as we try to persuade our children that bullying is wrong. You are not alone though. Most late night shows feature the same nastiness - things that would never be said to a person&#039;s face. I&#039;m not sure that&#039;s something to be proud of but that&#039;s your choice.
I believe that posting my name at the end in large black font is deliberately misleading
 and judging from the person who guided me here, it worked.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess it depends on your definition of comedy. This piece is consistent with the contemporary practice where insult is the foundation of &#8220;humour&#8221; at the same time as we try to persuade our children that bullying is wrong. You are not alone though. Most late night shows feature the same nastiness &#8211; things that would never be said to a person&#8217;s face. I&#8217;m not sure that&#8217;s something to be proud of but that&#8217;s your choice.<br />
I believe that posting my name at the end in large black font is deliberately misleading<br />
 and judging from the person who guided me here, it worked.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Take it from the Topp by Arleigh Chase</title>
		<link>http://therealstory.ca/2013-05-16/bc-politics/take-it-from-the-topp/comment-page-1#comment-16179</link>
		<dc:creator>Arleigh Chase</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 May 2013 08:45:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[From the information posted above by Gerald at May 16, 9:09 p.m., I would say the rank and file members of the NDP have a good basis for a class action suit of possible fraud against Mr. Topp. I understand that the Manning Centre in its coaching for conservative politicians has advocated infiltrating opposition campaigns by placing ringers in key positions. Clearly Mr. Topp did not effectively execute his job duties as NDP campaign manager, letting Christy Clark&#039;s campaign land all the punches while Adrian Dix was told to stay &quot;positive&quot;, i.e. stay quiet. And, just as clear is Mr. Topp&#039;s partnership with Ken Boessenkool, Ms. Clark&#039;s former Chief of Staff, a very elite position within the Liberal chain of command.

If this were the United States, Mr. Topp, Ms. Clark, Mr. Boessenkool, his consultancy partners, the Manning Centre and the Liberal Executive council would, in all likelihood, be facing some very serious jail time under the RICO statutes which were enacted to for anti-racketeering purposes. But, alas, we have no such corrective measures and certainly no regulatory agencies or police forces uncompromised enough to take on and prosecute such an investigation. Indeed, with Chuck Strahl&#039;s connections to the CSIS oversight committee, I wonder what additional assistance may have been brought into this election scam.

I do have to grudgingly acknowledge how well executed this plan was and still is. Everyone&#039;s focused on &quot;incompetence&quot; and the &quot;mistakes&quot; that were made when I would argue quite the opposite:  this team of thieves executed their roles perfectly, pulling off the heist of the century and using sleight of hand to keep everyone from looking at the criminal nature of this scam. But after all, they&#039;ve stolen everything else in this province - what&#039;s another election or two?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the information posted above by Gerald at May 16, 9:09 p.m., I would say the rank and file members of the NDP have a good basis for a class action suit of possible fraud against Mr. Topp. I understand that the Manning Centre in its coaching for conservative politicians has advocated infiltrating opposition campaigns by placing ringers in key positions. Clearly Mr. Topp did not effectively execute his job duties as NDP campaign manager, letting Christy Clark&#8217;s campaign land all the punches while Adrian Dix was told to stay &#8220;positive&#8221;, i.e. stay quiet. And, just as clear is Mr. Topp&#8217;s partnership with Ken Boessenkool, Ms. Clark&#8217;s former Chief of Staff, a very elite position within the Liberal chain of command.</p>
<p>If this were the United States, Mr. Topp, Ms. Clark, Mr. Boessenkool, his consultancy partners, the Manning Centre and the Liberal Executive council would, in all likelihood, be facing some very serious jail time under the RICO statutes which were enacted to for anti-racketeering purposes. But, alas, we have no such corrective measures and certainly no regulatory agencies or police forces uncompromised enough to take on and prosecute such an investigation. Indeed, with Chuck Strahl&#8217;s connections to the CSIS oversight committee, I wonder what additional assistance may have been brought into this election scam.</p>
<p>I do have to grudgingly acknowledge how well executed this plan was and still is. Everyone&#8217;s focused on &#8220;incompetence&#8221; and the &#8220;mistakes&#8221; that were made when I would argue quite the opposite:  this team of thieves executed their roles perfectly, pulling off the heist of the century and using sleight of hand to keep everyone from looking at the criminal nature of this scam. But after all, they&#8217;ve stolen everything else in this province &#8211; what&#8217;s another election or two?</p>
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		<title>Comment on A secret message from the BC Liberals by Ian</title>
		<link>http://therealstory.ca/2010-11-03/bc-liberals/a-secret-message-from-the-bc-liberals/comment-page-1#comment-16178</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 May 2013 21:29:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s called parody.  It&#039;s a form of comedy.  Maybe a little heavy handed here, but that&#039;s the genre.  Then again I think you understand that as I did note that at the top of the post... you know, here&#039;s where I translate your message.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s called parody.  It&#8217;s a form of comedy.  Maybe a little heavy handed here, but that&#8217;s the genre.  Then again I think you understand that as I did note that at the top of the post&#8230; you know, here&#8217;s where I translate your message.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A secret message from the BC Liberals by Mickey Patryluk</title>
		<link>http://therealstory.ca/2010-11-03/bc-liberals/a-secret-message-from-the-bc-liberals/comment-page-1#comment-16177</link>
		<dc:creator>Mickey Patryluk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 May 2013 20:19:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Someone has drawn my attention to this &quot;message&quot; actually thinking that I was the author as my name appears at the bottom of it. I will investigate whether your charade has any legal implications. In the meantime, you might consider what would be morally and ethically appropriate and at least, remove my name if you still wish to play with the content of my message to members so long ago. 
Mickey Patryluk]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone has drawn my attention to this &#8220;message&#8221; actually thinking that I was the author as my name appears at the bottom of it. I will investigate whether your charade has any legal implications. In the meantime, you might consider what would be morally and ethically appropriate and at least, remove my name if you still wish to play with the content of my message to members so long ago.<br />
Mickey Patryluk</p>
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		<title>Comment on Take it from the Topp by RS</title>
		<link>http://therealstory.ca/2013-05-16/bc-politics/take-it-from-the-topp/comment-page-1#comment-16174</link>
		<dc:creator>RS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 May 2013 14:38:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am very disappointed in the outcome.  The key players did not execute, the game plan was flawed, the coaching ineffective, and the GM is left fumbling for excuses knowing full well he failed to provide the team with the apparatus required to prevail.

Brilliant game as usual Ian!  Must be a scoring record for the number of comments.  I don&#039;t think it&#039;s unsportsmanlike to run the score up in this situation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am very disappointed in the outcome.  The key players did not execute, the game plan was flawed, the coaching ineffective, and the GM is left fumbling for excuses knowing full well he failed to provide the team with the apparatus required to prevail.</p>
<p>Brilliant game as usual Ian!  Must be a scoring record for the number of comments.  I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s unsportsmanlike to run the score up in this situation.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Take it from the Topp by Shane</title>
		<link>http://therealstory.ca/2013-05-16/bc-politics/take-it-from-the-topp/comment-page-1#comment-16169</link>
		<dc:creator>Shane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 May 2013 05:03:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Brian Topp, you are one stupid SOB. Your strategy has cripple British Columbia, you&#039;ve brought this province to her knees. Our public health care providers and especially our public school educators are now going to have to suffer the consequences of this public sector union hating government. I demand to see a public apology from you in every major news outlets in BC, and a promise to never represent the NDP ever again. Its almost as if your consulting firm was promised a huge bonus if the Liberals won.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian Topp, you are one stupid SOB. Your strategy has cripple British Columbia, you&#8217;ve brought this province to her knees. Our public health care providers and especially our public school educators are now going to have to suffer the consequences of this public sector union hating government. I demand to see a public apology from you in every major news outlets in BC, and a promise to never represent the NDP ever again. Its almost as if your consulting firm was promised a huge bonus if the Liberals won.</p>
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